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kelly5612



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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 6:41 pm    Post subject: Verizon DSL "speed"? Reply with quote

Have other Verizon customers also been experiencing crushingly slow internet speeds lately?

I just tested our connection (via http://www2.verizon.net/micro/speedtest/hsi/) and got the following results:

Download: 86 kbps
Upload: 325 kbps

Of course, their assessment is that it's my PC, not their service, which, of course, can be fixed for the low rate of blah blah blah.

Boy, I thought Comcast was bad.
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Subcity



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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it's fine here. Yes, they always say "It's your computer." Have you tried powering down then restarting the modem? (If you do a hard reset of the modem, that causes a problem and they have to walk you through a step afterwards - "redirect".)

Also, if you have a Windows machine, try restarting it in safe mode with network support and then do the speed test again. That should help determine if other stuff on your computer is mucking things up, though it doesn't rule them out.

Otherwise, you just have to roll them and say, "No, it's at your end." FWIW, whenever I call them I've already done all the troubleshooting and then insist that the problem is at their end. Often, about 20 minutes into the call they say, "Oh, gee, looks like our system is having a problem..." Bottom line, ya gotta push them.
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jack



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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:43 am    Post subject: Verizon DSL speed Reply with quote

Mine's running fine:

Upload 377 kbps
Download 961 kbps

This is the double-speed DSL, well worth looking into for availability at your house. It's still not fast enough, not these days, with massive amounts of data in single Web pages.

I had a major DSL problem once, which was caused by a noisy phone line (audible noise on the voice line). That in turn was caused by the line inside the house having gotten wet, thanks to a pinhole leak in plumbing.

-- Jack
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Bill



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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Comcast:

DOWN: 26.9 mb/s
UP: 4.01 mb/s
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atch



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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, and it is agonizing! I find that if we reset the modem (hard boot) the first time, it usually won't quite do the job. Hard boot 2nd time, maybe it fixes it. Sometimes it takes 3 or 4 times of rebooting the modem to resolve the issue, and sometimes it won't fix it at all.

When I have contacted them in the past, it was the typical run around, but I called them last month and they actually accepted responsibility and did something to resolve it (at least temporarily).

Just tonight we (again) experienced crawling speeds, and the problem was only resolved after 3 or 4 reboots of the modem.
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atch



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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW:

159 Kbps down
425 Kbps up

WTF? We can upload close to 3x faster than we can download?!?!?

Evil or Very Mad
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kelly5612



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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I'm pretty annoyed. I'm gonna try the modem reboot and see what happens, then steel myself for the inevitable "It's not us, it's you -- but we can fix it for you if you upgrade" phone call.

Grrr...
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:19 am    Post subject: DSL speed Reply with quote

atch wrote:
BTW:

159 Kbps down
425 Kbps up

WTF? We can upload close to 3x faster than we can download?!?!?

Evil or Very Mad


Those numbers are reversed. Download speed is several times higher than upload speed. -- Jack
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jack



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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:26 am    Post subject: DSL speed Reply with quote

kelly5612 wrote:
Yeah, I'm pretty annoyed. I'm gonna try the modem reboot and see what happens, then steel myself for the inevitable "It's not us, it's you -- but we can fix it for you if you upgrade" phone call.

Grrr...


My Verizon DSL modem, purchased 2001, became increasingly unreliable at making the DSL connection. Last summer I bought a Netgear DGN-2000 wireless router and DSL modem combination, and this has proven quite reliable, as well as giving me better wireless coverage around the house.
-- Jack
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atch



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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 9:31 pm    Post subject: Re: DSL speed Reply with quote

jack wrote:
atch wrote:
BTW:

159 Kbps down
425 Kbps up

WTF? We can upload close to 3x faster than we can download?!?!?

Evil or Very Mad


Those numbers are reversed. Download speed is several times higher than upload speed. -- Jack


Nope. I was surprised when I saw it as well, and I double checked. Notice that kelly has similar up/down rates in the original post. As you can imagine, 159kbps downloading is painfully slow.

Fortunately tonight it is working a bit better. My download speed is 1.093 Mbps and upload is 382 Kbps.

If the problem is with my system, it should be consistently bad, not very bad one night then good the next.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:04 am    Post subject: Re: DSL speed Reply with quote

atch wrote:
Nope. I was surprised when I saw it as well, and I double checked. Notice that kelly has similar up/down rates in the original post. As you can imagine, 159kbps downloading is painfully slow.

Fortunately tonight it is working a bit better. My download speed is 1.093 Mbps and upload is 382 Kbps.

If the problem is with my system, it should be consistently bad, not very bad one night then good the next.


Verizon home-DSL service is "asymmetric DSL", where more bandwidth is provided for download than for upload -- reflecting the normal manner of use. If the download speed is less than upload, something is indeed seriously malfunctioning.

"ADSL (Asymmetric DSL) is a type of DSL where the upstream and downstream bandwidth are assigned different amounts of bandwidth. Typical configurations today are 2Mb downstream and 128Kb upstream."

Here's a site offering user reviews of broadband Internet service -- DSL and cable: http://www.dslreports.com/ Local reviewers have many complaints about Comcast -- whereas Verizon DSL seems OK.

I've been on Verizon DSL for nine years, and the only service-slowdowns I've encountered have been due to hardware problems here. Most recently, my ethernet connection to the wireless router/modem went south, so all my computers are communicating with the router via wireless.

Speed test today: upload 368 kbps, download 952 kbps.

Yes, "If the problem is with my system, it should be consistently bad, not very bad one night then good the next." But I've never seen such erratic behavior from Verizon DSL, and I wouldn't be so sure that the problem isn't in your system. Intermittent failure modes are not uncommon.

-- Jack
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MsKitty



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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 5:00 pm    Post subject: slow DSL Reply with quote

We had the same problems with earthlink DSL. Switched to Comcast and it's always at least 10 times faster, often more. DSL is a dead horse.
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 10:19 am    Post subject: speed Reply with quote

I have never gotten above 100 Mbps, even with a brand new computer, which I attribute to the state of our phone lines, however when I called Verizon I found that for that speed the fee is only 14.95 a month, half of what I had been paying. For the most part it is adequate, occasionally problematic with some video players. So I went for the cheaper plan.
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zrathore



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My DSL has been awful lately (on Ingleside Terr), but I think it's a function of my router. I called the Verizon Consumer Solutions group, and I can't believe it, but I got them to send me a new router for free. And the conversation took no more than 5 min. I really am amazed. Try calling them if you ever have a problem with Verizon DSL. The number is: 877-461-2284
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jack



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:27 pm    Post subject: DSL speed Reply with quote

zrathore wrote:
My DSL has been awful lately (on Ingleside Terr), but I think it's a function of my router. I called the Verizon Consumer Solutions group, and I can't believe it, but I got them to send me a new router for free. And the conversation took no more than 5 min. I really am amazed. Try calling them if you ever have a problem with Verizon DSL. The number is: 877-461-2284


Guess I don't know why the router would cause slow DSL lines, unless we're talking about a combined router/DSL modem here. Anyway, let us know if this solves your problem. FWIW, I'm just a few blocks away from you, and I've noticed no DSL problems here.

-- Jack
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