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Mount Pleasant DC Forum Discussion about the Mount Pleasant Neighborhood
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dsachdev
Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 402
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:55 am Post subject: ANC Meetings |
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I was wondering if someone could enlighten me on the topic of ANC meetings. I have not attented one of these meetings and am wondering if all of their meetings are open to the public. After looking through the minutes from 2006 so far, it is curious to me that the re-occurring topic of discussion seems to be technical equipment and how it is purchased, stored, and loaned out.
I would have expected to see some long term discussions on the business district, the impacts of changes in Columbia Heights are having on our neighborhood, and how the business district can better suit our residents.
Not everyone is on the same page as far as many of those topics go, but it is obviously a hot topic that is important to many of us in the neighborhood. And this board is evident that there are alot of thoughs, opinions, and possibly people willing to put forth an effort to help improve some things. It definitly seems worth discussions.
For starters - I would like to know if all meetings are open to the public. In the past I have seen some notices about business meetings that seemed to be open only to business owners in the neighborhood. Is this correct, or did I misread?
Thanks
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jack
Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 4400 Location: 19th & Lamont
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:51 am Post subject: ANC meetings |
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ANC "business meetings" are to transact ANC business, and the name does not mean that the meetings are for business owners.
The function of the ANC is to advise DC Government agencies concerning policies that they have affecting Mount Pleasant. This is not a neighborhood government, and we do not have any power to guide neighborhood development. That said, the topic of the business district comes up frequently, and is dealt with specifically at ANC Commercial Corridor Committee meetings.
You will find plenty about ANC work in the ANC topics on this site (you have to scroll well down to find them). Last night, we dealt with neglected properties, neighborhood burglaries, safety and security in Harvard Towers, pedestrian crossing of 16th Street at Spring Place, alley development behind Heller's, and other such topics.
ANC meetings are, by law, open to the public. That said, the public is there to observe, not necessarily to participate. There is a period during which members of the public are free to bring up whatever issues they like to the ANC.
-- Jack |
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Laurie
Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 739
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:35 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | ANC meetings are, by law, open to the public. That said, the public is there to observe, not necessarily to participate. There is a period during which members of the public are free to bring up whatever issues they like to the ANC. |
As a former 2-term ANC Commissioner, and unlike this particular ANC Commission voted in, we always let the public participate in all OLD and NEW business before the ANC.
The process usually went as follows:
1. Open up discussion with public input on a particular issue that was placed on the agenda.
2. Public discuss among commissioners.
3. Voted, or waited until the next month to vote (possibly asking for more public input).
4. Sometimes carried issue over to another month(s) possibly at this point without public input because we may have wanted to hear from committee meeting reports.
This wasn't always the case, but close enough. We created committees to have extra meetings during the months and outside the monthly ANC scheduled meeting. These committees were comprised of 1 or 2 ANC commissioners serving as chairs or co-chairs and any resident who wished to join. They, in turn, would provide committee reports at the ANC meeting, thus reducing alot of public discussion time.
I believe this ANC Commission abolished committees and only have them on an ad hoc basis.
Basically without being allowed an open public discussion on any old or new business discourages attendance, therefore, in most cases, why bother?
P.S. Our "Open Forum Discussion" consisted on anything that wasn't on the ANC Agenda.
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jack
Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 4400 Location: 19th & Lamont
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:28 am Post subject: ANC meetings |
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The Public Discussion period is for any member of the public to comment on any issue, including topics that will come up during the evening.
Later ANC discussions may be opened up to public input, if the commissioners so choose. Allowing all discussions to be opened up to participation by everyone leads to very long debates, and gives improper advantage to people who have the time and energy to come to ANC meetings. Our job as elected commissioners is to represent the people of our districts, including those who are not present at the meeting, on an equal basis with those who do attend.
-- Jack |
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dsachdev
Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 402
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Thank you for the replies |
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mlhammock
Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 7 Location: Ingleside
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I have attended a few ANC meetings and was dissapointed in the format, agenda, and recap. Audience just sits there watching (last time I was there) 4 white men deciding on things that affect us all, without any input from the residents present at the meeting. I agree with Laurie. Resident's don't go due to the inability to actively particpate in deciding what happens to their neighborhood. |
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jack
Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 4400 Location: 19th & Lamont
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:30 pm Post subject: ANC meetings |
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| mlhammock wrote: | | I have attended a few ANC meetings and was dissapointed in the format, agenda, and recap. Audience just sits there watching (last time I was there) 4 white men deciding on things that affect us all, without any input from the residents present at the meeting. I agree with Laurie. Resident's don't go due to the inability to actively particpate in deciding what happens to their neighborhood. |
Well, that's not quite accurate. Every meeting begins with a public discussion period, at which time people can speak about whatever topic they like, including those on the agenda for the evening. We put that first so that people who want to be heard can speak, then go home, without having to stay for the evening, or until whenever we get around to their topic of interest.
The trouble with opening up our later discussions to public input (and we do that, on occasion, if a commissioner requests, and the commission agrees) is twofold. First, it's hard enough to get the six of us to converge. Expand the discussion to a "committee" of ten or twenty, and a debate can go on forever. (We hear many complaints about how long and tedious our meetings are, and other ANC meetings, which I frequently attend, are surely long and tedious.) Second, we're supposed to represent the whole neighborhood, all 12,000 residents of Mount Pleasant, equally and fairly. It's not fair to give special weight to a handful of people who have the time to come to our meetings.
If you don't like the current crop of ANC Commissioners, then you have an opportunity on November 7 to make changes. There will be at least three new commissioners for the coming term. Wayne Kahn, Rich Wysocki, and Mitchell Backfield are all walking away from the job.
-- Jack |
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jack
Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 4400 Location: 19th & Lamont
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:35 pm Post subject: ANC meetings |
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| mlhammock wrote: | | I have attended a few ANC meetings and was dissapointed in the format, agenda, and recap. Audience just sits there watching (last time I was there) 4 white men deciding on things that affect us all, without any input from the residents present at the meeting. I agree with Laurie. Resident's don't go due to the inability to actively particpate in deciding what happens to their neighborhood. |
BTW, I'm your ANC commissioner, and you have ample opportunity to communicate your opinions to me here on this board, or directly. You get my monthly newsletter, so you certainly know about current neighborhood issues, and how to contact me, and I tell you in those newsletters what's going on at the ANC. All of my past newsletters are available via my website: http://DCJack.org.
The best way for residents to "actively participate" in ANC matters is through their elected representative. We're supposed to take all these inputs, synthesize them with the information we acquire through being commissioners, and take the result to the monthly meetings. You shouldn't have to attend monthly meetings in order to be heard.
-- Jack |
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