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MPHS
Joined: 02 Mar 2006
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Location: irving St
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 Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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| If MPNA is taking up the issue, we can be certain of one thing: no live entertainment at the bus stop. |
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Dwight
Joined: 27 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Bear in mind that East of the Harvard Towers driveway, the bike lane is very frequently used by Harvard Towers residents in their "zippies" (is that the right name for the electric wheelchairs). They use the bike lane because it is smoother than the sidewalks. Also, they use the bike lane to travel against traffic as well.
Strikes me as an unsafe practice, but a popular one.
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jack
Joined: 23 Mar 2004
Posts: 4400
Location: 19th & Lamont
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| Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:37 pm Post subject: Bike lane |
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| Dwight wrote: | Bear in mind that East of the Harvard Towers driveway, the bike lane is very frequently used by Harvard Towers residents in their "zippies" (is that the right name for the electric wheelchairs). They use the bike lane because it is smoother than the sidewalks. Also, they use the bike lane to travel against traffic as well.
Strikes me as an unsafe practice, but a popular one.
-- Dwight |
This is true, and it's always a little scary to see somebody coming down that hill in a powered wheelchair, while you're driving up the hill. But I don't know what could be done to make that any safer.
One thing about driving in the inner city: there are so many hazards -- bicycles, jaywalking pedestrians, cars pulling out of parking places, buses, drivers doing right-on-red, scooters running red lights, et cetera, that most drivers are pretty alert to such hazards as a wheelchair on the road.
Unfortunately, it takes only one dumb driver, busy on his cellphone or fiddling with his radio or drunk, to produce a bad accident.
Still, you'll see that most personal-injury accidents occur outside the inner city, where traffic moves at higher speeds, and drivers are less alert to pedestrians, bicycles, and other such non-vehicles on the road.
-- Jack |
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jack
Joined: 23 Mar 2004
Posts: 4400
Location: 19th & Lamont
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| Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:30 am Post subject: Re: Irving/Kenyon bus stop pedestrians |
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| jack wrote: | It's been suggested that we do something right now for the safety of the people walking in the bike lane. DDOT's suggestion is that a safe pedestrian way be created along the road with barriers, until the sidewalk comes about. That would eliminate a fair number of parking spots. (Of course there weren't any parking spots there before the traffic calming measures implemented in 2002.)
Question to the neighborhood: should the ANC support the creation of this pedestrian way, at the expense of perhaps eight parking spots? Or not? |
Preparations for installing temporary barriers along the bike lane, to define a safe route for pedestrians along the curb, will begin next week. Even as two DDOT workers and I examined the situation, a Harvard Towers wheelchair came rolling down Irving Street, demonstrating rather nicely the need for some protection of the pedestrians from the traffic.
-- Jack |
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ricky
Joined: 16 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Jack,
I find this totally unnecessary. You had queried Irving St residents about this issue a while back - I believe many were opposed to it, yet you continued to pursue it. If pedestrians walk on the street, that is their issue. We have sidewalks and crosswalks. We also have another close-by Bus Stop. Anyway, a sidewalk is in the long range plan. I am tired of seeing Jersey walls everywhere - especially against a Park-like landscape...
Pursue "real" pedestrian hazards - such as the narrow sidewalk between Mt. Pleasant St & 16th Street. Now that stretch is dangerous. |
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Irving St & 17th
Joined: 03 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:15 am Post subject: |
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This is absolutely ridiculous. If the people were concerned for their safety they obviously would walk to the other bus stop which is almost equidistant from the alley (i.e. the back access to Harvard Towers).
Again there is no problem. Why does this neighborhood have to suffer from these arbitrary dictates? |
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Michael
Joined: 07 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| I hate the thought of more ugly Jersey barriers going up. It's totally unnecessary. |
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MPHS
Joined: 02 Mar 2006
Posts: 91
Location: irving St
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Now that they're installed, how long will the temporary jersey barriers be installed at the base of Irving Street? That's a lot of parking spaces to lose, especially as folks get back from vacation. |
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jack
Joined: 23 Mar 2004
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Location: 19th & Lamont
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject: Pedestrian pathway along Irving Street |
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| MPHS wrote: | | Now that they're installed, how long will the temporary jersey barriers be installed at the base of Irving Street? That's a lot of parking spaces to lose, especially as folks get back from vacation. |
They are temporary until a sidewalk is built. Unfortunately, that's at least a year off. -- Jack |
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jack
Joined: 23 Mar 2004
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Location: 19th & Lamont
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| Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:07 am Post subject: Re: Pedestrian pathway along Irving Street |
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| jack wrote: | | MPHS wrote: | | Now that they're installed, how long will the temporary jersey barriers be installed at the base of Irving Street? That's a lot of parking spaces to lose, especially as folks get back from vacation. |
They are temporary until a sidewalk is built. Unfortunately, that's at least a year off. -- Jack |
Well, try five years. But the plans for the Kenyon/Irving intersection are close to fruition, work to begin after the winter cold breaks. This work will include the construction of a proper sidewalk along the south/west side of Irving Street, connecting the Harvard Towers building to the Irving/Kenyon bus stop. Then, yes, the jersey wall junk will be removed. -- Jack |
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